Anti-gay Christians like Brown see the acceptance of homosexuals in society as something else. They believe that all gays are following the book as a kind of manifesto. That gays are following some secret and diabolical plan outlined in "After The Ball." All gays know about it, we just don't talk about it in public. Most people would put this in the realm of conspiracy nuts, but it's amazing how many prominent Christian leaders like Brown and mega preacher Albert Mohler believe it's true.
I've never heard of the book until the name of it started to pop up in rabid anti-gay religious sites. No one I know has ever heard of the book, it went out of print years ago and I guarantee you 99% of gays have never heard of the book much less read it. 'After The Ball' is to gays what "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is to Jews.
This is an interview with Brown and Wayne Bessen. Wayne played a key role in exposing the "ex-gay" movement for what it was. My response is below.
Brown really is a bold faced liar. As for this 'gay activist' Brown said he was going to go out to lunch/dinner with because he thinks Brown is such a great guy, let's hear what the activist actually said: holybulliesandheadlessmonsters.blogspot.com/2009/07/charlotte-pride-and-hypocrisy-of.html#.Uw6aFY3Tl1t
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First, Christians should be leery of Brown because of his association with the heresy called the "Brownsville Revival" that he still defends today (news flash The Holy Spirit doesn't make you bark like a dog) and is considered a false teacher in most Christian circles for pushing the 'Prosperity Doctrine.'
Brown lied about the purpose of his group at Charlotte Pride with one witness saying; "I saw a lot of people trying to get away from the red-shirted people, and they just wouldn’t leave people alone. They were going after the children of gay and lesbian parents. They were after the little kids, telling them that their mommies and daddies were going to hell and were sinners.”
He bares false witness with saying comments like; "Gays want to sexualize children" And they; "Want to put Christians in jail" (easy Google look-up) he'll no doubt will say was taken out of context with a smug smile. The man has a ministry (they also went to the pride parade together that brown said was like; "Going to the gates of Hell") with Lou Engle, also considered a false Christian by most Christians for spreading the 'Manifest Sons of God' Heresy, who went to Uganda to help pass the "Anti-Gay" Law that would put gays in prison for the rest of their lives:
Second, and what concerns me as a Christian is his keeping old Jewish Laws with new Christianity mix and match apostate theology, even saying Christians should keep the Sabbath.
This is what he said on the Piers Morgan show:
"First, Jesus said that He came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. In other words, the Old Testament law, even in Jesus’ day, was still in force and Jesus accepted it. That is the same law that condemns homosexuality in the Book of Leviticus.
Next, Brown cited Matthew 15 in which Jesus states that all sexual acts committed outside of marriage defile a human being.
Finally, Brown cited Matthew 19 in which Jesus said that marriage, as God intended it, is the union of one man and one woman."
My response:
Any man who claims Jesus said we are to run back to the Old Testament is insulting the complete work of the cross and teaches a different Gospel than the one preached by Christ and Paul (Rom 7:6, Gal 2:21). The Bible is crystal clear that ALL the Law and the Prophets hang on the sole edict of "Loving your (gay) neighbor as yourself" (Matthew 22-36, 40). Period. Paul even goes as far as saying those who insist on following aspects of the Old Covenant, a covenant that was hung on the cross to die with Christ and to die to us to be replaced by a NEW Covenant of Grace, are under a "curse" (Galatians 3:10).
Brown also seems to miss the rest of the Matthew verses where Jesus talks about born 'eunuchs' (verse 12) who straight marriage doesn't apply to and how the marriage vow is only for those who accept it for themselves (verse 11), it wasn't a command. Look at the Bible more closely and you'll see Jesus said little about marriage (He only commented on it because it was brought up to Him) and Paul had even less a regard for it (1 Cor 7:8,9).
Any person who doesn't understand these basics tenets about Christianity shouldn't call themselves "Christian."
Brown lied about the purpose of his group at Charlotte Pride with one witness saying; "I saw a lot of people trying to get away from the red-shirted people, and they just wouldn’t leave people alone. They were going after the children of gay and lesbian parents. They were after the little kids, telling them that their mommies and daddies were going to hell and were sinners.”
He bares false witness with saying comments like; "Gays want to sexualize children" And they; "Want to put Christians in jail" (easy Google look-up) he'll no doubt will say was taken out of context with a smug smile. The man has a ministry (they also went to the pride parade together that brown said was like; "Going to the gates of Hell") with Lou Engle, also considered a false Christian by most Christians for spreading the 'Manifest Sons of God' Heresy, who went to Uganda to help pass the "Anti-Gay" Law that would put gays in prison for the rest of their lives:
Second, and what concerns me as a Christian is his keeping old Jewish Laws with new Christianity mix and match apostate theology, even saying Christians should keep the Sabbath.
This is what he said on the Piers Morgan show:
"First, Jesus said that He came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. In other words, the Old Testament law, even in Jesus’ day, was still in force and Jesus accepted it. That is the same law that condemns homosexuality in the Book of Leviticus.
Next, Brown cited Matthew 15 in which Jesus states that all sexual acts committed outside of marriage defile a human being.
Finally, Brown cited Matthew 19 in which Jesus said that marriage, as God intended it, is the union of one man and one woman."
My response:
Any man who claims Jesus said we are to run back to the Old Testament is insulting the complete work of the cross and teaches a different Gospel than the one preached by Christ and Paul (Rom 7:6, Gal 2:21). The Bible is crystal clear that ALL the Law and the Prophets hang on the sole edict of "Loving your (gay) neighbor as yourself" (Matthew 22-36, 40). Period. Paul even goes as far as saying those who insist on following aspects of the Old Covenant, a covenant that was hung on the cross to die with Christ and to die to us to be replaced by a NEW Covenant of Grace, are under a "curse" (Galatians 3:10).
Brown also seems to miss the rest of the Matthew verses where Jesus talks about born 'eunuchs' (verse 12) who straight marriage doesn't apply to and how the marriage vow is only for those who accept it for themselves (verse 11), it wasn't a command. Look at the Bible more closely and you'll see Jesus said little about marriage (He only commented on it because it was brought up to Him) and Paul had even less a regard for it (1 Cor 7:8,9).
Any person who doesn't understand these basics tenets about Christianity shouldn't call themselves "Christian."
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